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We have a couple of users who, despite our requests, like to listen to music on Youtube. For business reasons, we can't really ban Youtube, so I'm seeking a low-bandwidth alternative for this small group, as an olive branch and middle ground. 

Does anyone have any recommendations?


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Limey
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Limey Jul 2, 2013 at 6:16 UTC

We force users to use this outstanding technological device called a radio. We even provide something called electricity that it can 'run' on.

It's the devil's work, I tell you.

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Galen in Laguna
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Galen in Laguna Jul 2, 2013 at 5:46 UTC

a 80gig hard drive full of mp3's and a shared Windows Media Player library.  They even get to pick the songs they want.

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Kev840
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Kev840 Jul 2, 2013 at 5:50 UTC

Pandora.com buffers each song using short bursts of data.  The data stream is idle about 90% of the time.  Slacker.com uses a constant low bandwidth data stream.  Both use very minimal bandwidth, 1% or less of a gigabit link.  If you are only talking about a handful of users and not thousands, either option should work for you.

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Matt9169
Thai Pepper
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Matt9169 Jul 2, 2013 at 5:56 UTC

I know the paid subscription to spotify allows you to download music for offline listening.  That way it's only downloaded once...

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Nathan-V
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Nathan-V Jul 2, 2013 at 5:56 UTC

If you can segregate the streaming traffic, then you can set it to low priority and possibly cap it's maximum bandwidth.  If your bandwidth becomes saturated, streaming traffic will be the first to drop, hopefully restoring enough bandwidth for everything else.

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Limey
Mace
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Limey Jul 2, 2013 at 6:01 UTC

Just tell them that LinkedIn isn't blocked.

When they come back and say "That isn't a music site, it looks like a job board!", just say "Exactly!"

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Eric007
Thai Pepper
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Eric007 Jul 2, 2013 at 6:03 UTC

Tell them to bring their iPods/other mp3 playing portable device....

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Gen. Ripper
Datil
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Gen. Ripper Jul 2, 2013 at 6:09 UTC

Kev840 wrote:

Pandora.com buffers each song using short bursts of data.  The data stream is idle about 90% of the time.  Slacker.com uses a constant low bandwidth data stream.  Both use very minimal bandwidth, 1% or less of a gigabit link.  If you are only talking about a handful of users and not thousands, either option should work for you.

If we unblock Pandora, all hell will break loose. We had to block that because of widespread use.

Also, we only have a 3 Mb link.

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Gen. Ripper
Datil
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Gen. Ripper Jul 2, 2013 at 6:11 UTC

To be clear, the use isn't bringing the business to it's knees by any means, but it is having a noticeable impact on business operations.

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Gen. Ripper
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Gen. Ripper Jul 2, 2013 at 6:13 UTC

Nathan-V wrote:

If you can segregate the streaming traffic, then you can set it to low priority and possibly cap it's maximum bandwidth.  If your bandwidth becomes saturated, streaming traffic will be the first to drop, hopefully restoring enough bandwidth for everything else.

We do not currently have anything available to us that can do this (that I'm aware of), and I'd have no intention on maintaining a new proxy/server to route traffic to. 

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Matt9169
Thai Pepper
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Matt9169 Jul 2, 2013 at 6:13 UTC

wow, only 3Mb???  Just tell them that streaming isn't permitted, and to spend $20 on a mp3 player, or better yet, have them bring in a phone charger, and stream through their own data plan.

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Limey
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Limey Jul 2, 2013 at 6:16 UTC

We force users to use this outstanding technological device called a radio. We even provide something called electricity that it can 'run' on.

It's the devil's work, I tell you.

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Ross42.
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Ross42. Jul 2, 2013 at 6:22 UTC

Limey wrote:

We force users to use this outstanding technological device called a radio. We even provide something called electricity that it can 'run' on.

It's the devil's work, I tell you.

What is this demonry you speak of? FIRE AND BRIMSTONE BE UPON YE!

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Gen. Ripper
Datil
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Gen. Ripper Jul 2, 2013 at 6:23 UTC

Limey wrote:

We force users to use this outstanding technological device called a radio. We even provide something called electricity that it can 'run' on.

It's the devil's work, I tell you.

Many users do have radios. Until we killed Pandora, many used that as well. 

Personally, I wish we had more internets here, and this would be pretty much a non-issue. 3Mb, at the price we pay is just ridiculous. But, it's whats available.

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Rafi5646
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Rafi5646 Jul 2, 2013 at 6:55 UTC

Joseph0486 wrote:

To be clear, the use isn't bringing the business to it's knees by any means, but it is having a noticeable impact on business operations.

That right there is why people have policy's  not to allow streaming music on business internet.

Now a days there is tons of devices that support and play MP3's.

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Krizz
Datil
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Krizz Jul 2, 2013 at 8:16 UTC

di.fm is my fave online radio with good quality 64kbps aac stream, but it's mostly electronic.

Anyway, you can re-stream any net radio via multicast within your network, so no matter how many people will listen to it, ony one stream will be running on your actual connection.

 

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BizDPS
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BizDPS Jul 3, 2013 at 1:15 UTC

Rafi5646 wrote:

Joseph0486 wrote:

To be clear, the use isn't bringing the business to it's knees by any means, but it is having a noticeable impact on business operations.

That right there is why people have policy's  not to allow streaming music on business internet.

Now a days there is tons of devices that support and play MP3's.

Exactly.  This is actually a policy/HR issue.

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BluntForce
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BluntForce Jul 3, 2013 at 10:24 UTC

check out magicplay can stream across wi-fi to android phones or a rasp pi etc.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/03/magicplay_creator_crafts_raspberry_pi_demo/

 

completely free

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Gen. Ripper
Datil
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Gen. Ripper Jul 3, 2013 at 3:02 UTC

Stephen Cowan wrote:

check out magicplay can stream across wi-fi to android phones or a rasp pi etc.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/03/magicplay_creator_crafts_raspberry_pi_demo/

 

completely free

What are the bandwidth numbers for my internet connection going to look like? I saw this on /. yesterday as well...

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BluntForce
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BluntForce Jul 4, 2013 at 8:47 UTC

sorry I never got back, you could effectivly turn the "internet" side of things off and stream over wifi meaning all the data is internal

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Facepalm
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Facepalm Jul 4, 2013 at 10:43 UTC

Galen in Laguna wrote:

a 80gig hard drive full of mp3's and a shared Windows Media Player library.  They even get to pick the songs they want.

If music is stored in a file area where more than one person has access it counts as illegal file sharing. Without the right licensing even listening to the radio in the workplace can land you in a great deal of trouble, at least in the UK. We found gigs of music on our SAN a while ago and wiped the lot. Our legal department said it was ok for people to store music locally on their C drives as you can argue that only the local user can access it - I disagreed as Domain Admins can access whatever they like but that became the official company line.

As for your troublesome users, explain the problem to them and get approval from management to give them a final warning. Then block them. Simple, not time consuming, and you can then get on with something else. Its the policy we follow here - take the piss and you get your privileges revoked. 

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GlenW
Chipotle
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GlenW Jul 4, 2013 at 10:45 UTC

Galen in Laguna wrote:

a 80gig hard drive full of mp3's and a shared Windows Media Player library.  They even get to pick the songs they want.

Sounds expensive.

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RichyA
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RichyA Jul 4, 2013 at 10:50 UTC

Agreed with the pandora/slacker suggestion!

Option 2 - tell them to stop using YouTube and throttle their bandwidth down to a painful level to discourage it.

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Facepalm
Tabasco
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Facepalm Jul 4, 2013 at 10:51 UTC

BizDPS wrote:

Rafi5646 wrote:

Joseph0486 wrote:

To be clear, the use isn't bringing the business to it's knees by any means, but it is having a noticeable impact on business operations.

That right there is why people have policy's  not to allow streaming music on business internet.

Now a days there is tons of devices that support and play MP3's.

Exactly.  This is actually a policy/HR issue.

^ This. Corporate bandwidth is for corporate use, not the entertainment of the users. Harsh, but if you've only got a few Mb you have no choice.

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Jeff2262
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Jeff2262 Jul 4, 2013 at 11:47 UTC

Facepalm wrote:

Galen in Laguna wrote:

a 80gig hard drive full of mp3's and a shared Windows Media Player library.  They even get to pick the songs they want.

..Our legal department said it was ok for people to store music locally on their C drives as you can argue that only the local user can access it - I disagreed as Domain Admins can access whatever they like...

Plus, some users know how to share their folders (Windows 7 makes that easier than previously)

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